Subject: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 19 2012 @ 03:56 PM
By: CavemanJoe

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Oh hey, big game companies - MY TAX BILL IS HILARIOUSLY LARGE BECAUSE YOU WON'T PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE YOU UTTER BASTARDS.

Ahem.

Folks, as you might have guessed, the taxman has visited and I've gotta find six grand from somewhere. Emily and I live month-to-month, we don't have owt saved up (which is how we paid the similar tax bill last year). I'm gonna do the sort of one-time-only bundle deal that you just can't pass up for Memories in Places, but I could use some more ideas for ways to get Fast Bucks. We've got nearly eight thousand players and we only need six grand, this shouldn't be hard. Help?



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Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 19 2012 @ 05:08 PM
By: LadyRavenSkye

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Might I suggest a 2012 Tax Bundle that would grant you a slip of paper along with a mild assortment of Lodge items. The paper would increase your bank interest for a single DK or something.

Or possibly, for 1,200 SP (or whatever varied amount you'd like) a cig box with 100 cigs, because I'd buy that over the 75 cig box.


Also, I can easily throw a decent sum of money at you; but which is better: Throwing a large lump some, or small ginger amounts.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 19 2012 @ 07:29 PM
By: Buddleia

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Wouldn't it be nice if ordinary people could evade taxes as well as companies and millionaires can...

Good luck, CMJ! If you want to make more sales in the Lodge, then there were quite a few ideas here.

Another totally random idea: make some medals or something for awarding to the most generous donor/s. Perhaps people who donate more than X amount can, for the next month, get entered into a draw to win a small Lodge thing. (Might donate.)

And ... people who donate over X amount get to vote on which thing/s you will work on next? (Obviously from your choice of things. Would buy.)

And ... people who donate get to see pictures of your lions? (Would buy.)

(I would also guess that an MOTD would get noticed more than an Enquirer thread. Might be worth it casting the ideas-net and donation-appeal wider.)


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 19 2012 @ 08:36 PM
By: Count+Sessine

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Quote by: LadyRavenSkye

...which is better: Throwing a large lump some, or small ginger amounts.

Ooh, ooh, I can answer this one! Small donations are also very welcome, whenever the impulse moves you -- but "all at once" leaves more money for Dan because PayPal takes a fee from each transaction.

Edit: Oh, this thread was supposed to be about item ideas, wasn't it? Okay, how about this? Items that would let you invoke an NPC to subtract from the built-up monster count in a designated outpost -- and make the flavour text actually worth something:

Subtract 100 - Elias hands you an innocent-looking seashell, 100 sp
Subtract 500 - (mn... accepting flavour suggestions, here.) 500 sp
Subtract 1000 - 750 sp
Clear the Outpost - The Watcher calls in an Air Strike! (costs 2000 sp)


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 19 2012 @ 11:02 PM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

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Quote by: LadyRavenSkye

Might I suggest a 2012 Tax Bundle that would grant you a slip of paper along with a mild assortment of Lodge items. The paper would increase your bank interest for a single DK or something.


Meh. I'm generally okay with my bank sums, this would not entice me.

Quote by: Count+Sessine

Quote by: LadyRavenSkye

...which is better: Throwing a large lump some, or small ginger amounts.

Ooh, ooh, I can answer this one! Small donations are also very welcome, whenever the impulse moves you -- but "all at once" leaves more money for Dan because PayPal takes a fee from each transaction.


If only there were a way to have that not happen...


Subtract 100 - Elias hands you an innocent-looking seashell, 100 sp
Subtract 500 - (mn... accepting flavour suggestions, here.) 500 sp
Subtract 1000 - 750 sp
Clear the Outpost - The Watcher calls in an Air Strike! (costs 2000 sp)[/p]

Watches finally doing something?! Hurray!

Flavor idea: Corporal Punishment comes in to kill some things, randomly YELLING some of his WORDS at all the MONSTERS!

Old Saint Nades comes in and starts throwing grenades at monsters.

Super Sneaky Bastard Message: Why yes, I did just suggest an NPC of my own creation. What of it?


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 19 2012 @ 11:04 PM
By: Twosocks+Monkey

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The husband will grumble, but I just chucked a 20 in the hat. Wish I had more to give. Working in a bookstore means little cash. Frown

As for items well...ummm....

You know what would be awesome? Just pure, super awesome awesome-sauce?

Something I would HAVE to throw money at? Just because it would be necessary to my SURVIVAL?

A stuffed spiderkitty doll.

I don't...I don't know how it would be possible. BUT I WOULD NEED ONE.

-moo

PS: Especially if it had a little joker hat or something.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 19 2012 @ 11:29 PM
By: Zolotisty

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Quote by: Twosocks+Monkey

The husband will grumble, but I just chucked a 20 in the hat. Wish I had more to give. Working in a bookstore means little cash. Frown

As for items well...ummm....

You know what would be awesome? Just pure, super awesome awesome-sauce?

Something I would HAVE to throw money at? Just because it would be necessary to my SURVIVAL?

A stuffed spiderkitty doll.

I don't...I don't know how it would be possible. BUT I WOULD NEED ONE.

-moo

PS: Especially if it had a little joker hat or something.



That already exists, minus the hat:







There are two of these guys in existence. CMJ has one, I've got another. Were there sufficient interest, we could auction one I reckon -- but that would be an AWFULLY EXPENSIVE PLUSH DOLL you'd be buying, mind.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 20 2012 @ 12:06 AM
By: Twosocks+Monkey

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There are two of these guys in existence.


Sobs.

Want.

Sobs more.

The sad thing, I could totally make one of those. I just want an 'official' one. I even have a dusty sewing machine.

Razz

Can't we farm out the pattern to Topataco?

-moo


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 20 2012 @ 12:27 AM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

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*Gasp* are we discussing physical meatspace objects?!

You should sell Requisition tokens! Watcher's face glowering on one side, FailBoat, SpiderKitty, the Drive or Harebrain on the other! I'd buy... some, depending on the price.

Super Sneaky Bastard Message: Or you could sell chainsaws...


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 20 2012 @ 12:30 AM
By: CavemanJoe

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He's still got pride of place atop my telly.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 20 2012 @ 12:31 AM
By: CavemanJoe

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Quote by: Full+Metal+Lion

*Gasp* are we discussing physical meatspace objects?!

You should sell Requisition tokens! Watcher's face glowering on one side, FailBoat, SpiderKitty, the Drive or Harebrain on the other! I'd buy... some, depending on the price.

Super Sneaky Bastard Message: Or you could sell chainsaws...



We do have a bloody shop, y'know!


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 20 2012 @ 01:03 AM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

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Quote by: CavemanJoe

Quote by: Full+Metal+Lion

You should sell Requisition tokens! Watcher's face glowering on one side, FailBoat, SpiderKitty, the Drive or Harebrain on the other! I'd buy... some, depending on the price.

We do have a bloody shop, y'know!


Yes. Yes you do.

You could sell the Req in little sacks!

But, seriously, the store contains only one thing I want to buy, and my designated poster-space is already full.
Super Sneaky Bastard Message: I seem to remember you object to banner ads, so I won't even mention them.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 20 2012 @ 01:11 AM
By: Lunatick

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You could sell Barn Raisers in the Lodge. I'm certain that there's people who would just jump on the chance for some of those. And as Buddleia mentioned, I'd suggest making a MOTD about this too.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 20 2012 @ 01:49 AM
By: Zolotisty

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Donations are the route to go for this tax conundrum, you lot -- in-game item suggestions and/or detailed plans for bank heists are more useful (and immediate!) to the puzzle than merch suggestions.

People would spring for Barn Raisers, yeh.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 20 2012 @ 03:48 AM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

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Quote by: Zolotisty

Donations are the route to go for this tax conundrum, you lot -- in-game item suggestions and/or detailed plans for bank heists are more useful (and immediate!) to the puzzle than merch suggestions.

People would spring for Barn Raisers, yeh.



Hmm... if you spend $5 on virtual goods, you have made a decision that whatever you bought was worth more than anything you could buy in the real world for $5...

My job can be to kill the bus driver! Who's with me?

But, really, I had some ideas:

Make a donation HoF. People like to be at the top of lists.

Make a Golden Metronome, which allows the user to always get the timed fighting bonus for a DK.

Make a Shiny medal for donating.

Make a meter of "Money CMJ needs". Give everyone Shiny Medals/other things if the meter is filled.

Make the previously suggested MoTD.

Make a sale on the Lodge items. If not the perms, then the one-uses.

Not so sneaky note: I probably took the HoF idea from someone. Credit to him/her/them.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 20 2012 @ 07:17 AM
By: Twosocks+Monkey

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Idea.

People like those stupid thermometer things. You see them outside of fire houses and so forth when people try to raise money. A big DR MARIO looking...thing...that fills up as people donate.

You could add one (I know I know I'm always thinking of ideas that make more work) and it would help keep people watching and maybe they'd kick in that little extra as it crept up to certain milestones?

Maybe make it sorta kickstarter-y? As much as it sucks to put more things on your plate maybe promise that for certain milestones certain things happen? Or...maybe make special things that only exist for those that kick in 100 or more.

Like those donation drives on NPR.

I used to listen to This American Life, and Ira Glass always fucking got me to donate. I don't know how, but he did. He just made me feel so...good about feeling bad that they needed money...or something. Granted, I never could afford to donate enough to get the fancy bag or the mug that says Wait Wait don't drink me!... but the business model seems sound.

-moo


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 20 2012 @ 11:04 AM
By: Escemfer

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Items that would let you invoke an NPC to subtract from the built-up monster count in a designated outpost -- and make the flavour text actually worth something

And to repost a couple of things from the last thread:

Quote by: Tyr

Surprise Packages/Joker Boxes/Lost Luggage.Buy one, get a random item (or items). Maybe they're someone's lost backpack, and they've got some random Eboy's Items. Maybe it's a small bag of req, or a pack of cigs. Or a weapon from Sheila's. Or a Memento of some sort: "I opened this random box and all I got was this lousy Lio-ARGHRAGHAG!" Just...a box with a surprise inside. And do not tell us what's on the possible list of items. General category? Sure? Specifics? No. And maybe change them up from time to time.

Quote by: Maniak

I'd buy favour/a way to get off the failboat without triggering a new day.

Quote by: Beeps

2. Name Tag - A one-time-only name change.

Quote by: Kes

I would love to be able to buy an Extended Bio as a Hunter's Lodge item - I think it's one of the few donators' perks (or the only?) that can't be bought and gifted, and I can see it being useful for alts and friends and the like.

Quote by: Buddleia

Also, a way to buy and gift chronospheres to others.


AND ESPECIALLY THIS
Quote by: Swede

An item that allows people to redistribute their DK points.



Perhaps another limited-edition bundle that awards a badge or memento or something. I am personally a great big sucker for "achievement" kinds of things like badges.

Discounts on Mementos, or molds that make fewer/more than 50.

Custom attributes? Maybe?

"Just one more sex change please" token for Paprika's.

Teleport beacons (for a limited time?)

If I can think of anything else that might not take five years of programming...

Kitchen furniture (though that might be a lot of involved programming). Food storage pantry (maybe with options to make the contents private or public). Stove that provides a greater stamina buff than Cooking in the Jungle. Cleaning/Cooking is generally not worth bothering with, I haven't used it in a very, very long time.

also, tents.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 20 2012 @ 11:15 AM
By: Ebenezer

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Quote by: Maniak

I'd buy favour/a way to get off the failboat without triggering a new day.



How about a way to buy your friends off the FailBoat? In the olden days, I sent Marly 25 SP (then called DP) to buy herself a NewDay to free her from the Boat so we could play. I did that more than once!


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 20 2012 @ 02:09 PM
By: Omega

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Quote by: Ebenezer

Quote by: Maniak

I'd buy favour/a way to get off the failboat without triggering a new day.



How about a way to buy your friends off the FailBoat? In the olden days, I sent Marly 25 SP (then called DP) to buy herself a NewDay to free her from the Boat so we could play. I did that more than once!



Oh, I'm pretty sure the most important clause to him is where it can be done without triggering a Newday. You can still donate for people as a gift and let them off the failboat if they gave you the link, I bet!


Quote by: Swede

An item that allows people to redistribute their DK points.



Yes sir! Or at least a way to permanently reduce health(though that wouldn't probably cost anything, would it?) I'm pretty sure the collective value of all the organs in my body isn't worth all that requisition on Bastard Rank.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 20 2012 @ 02:13 PM
By: Zolotisty

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Donating for people is kind of bunk if you're just wanting to spend 25 - 50 USD cents on them.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 20 2012 @ 06:34 PM
By: Maniak

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- Colours. There are days when I'm dying to use a cotton candy pink or a really vibrant red. Sadly the game doesn't offer those colours in favour of seven different shades of black. It might be something to consider to make these colours donor-only, perhaps for a limited time. Yeah, I'd pay good money for the privilege of making your collective eyes bleed.

- I love each and every one of my clannies, but sending each and every one of my lovely clannies is a pain in the behind. Dear Caveman, can you help me buy their love?

- The map of the Island, at 2000 req, is still a bit steep if you're really new. Perhaps it'll be a nice 50 cent item? I understand it won't get you your six grand, but at least 50 cents isn't a loss in paypal fees. The idea behind that is that, while no one is going to donate 50 cents, they will donate maybe a bit more than that.

The first donation is the most difficult, so increase the benefits for first-time donors. Perks like the Commentary Export (R.I.P.) and the bigger bio make that first donation more tempting, and once you have the first.. more can follow. Besides colours, other perks could be:

- A special memento with a donor-only attribute (can't be gifted or dropped, only discarded for those that wish to remain anonymous).
- If you buy me a pint, I'll buy you a pint.*
- Longer retention for distractions.
- A sent box for distractions.

*One-time offer. Only redeemable at the Prancing Spiderkitty.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 21 2012 @ 12:40 AM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

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Quote by: Maniak

Yeah, I'd pay good money for the privilege of making your collective eyes bleed.


Do you believe me to be royalty, good sir?


- I love each and every one of my clannies, but sending each and every one of my lovely clannies is a pain in the behind. Dear Caveman, can you help me buy their love?

Where would you send them?

In other news, could we utilize some player skills? Like, drawing? Could you auction off drawings? Would any artist be willing to do that? Would it be worth it?
Super Sneaky Bastard Message: I think you know what I mean by "drawings". Hint: I meant pornography pf the Watcher. But other people probably wouldn't.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 22 2012 @ 01:12 AM
By: Lunatick

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I just thought of another item you could sell in the Lodge that people would probably be willing to donate for: the ability toovr their place. I have a few places that I'd be willing to donate some money to move.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 22 2012 @ 02:00 AM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

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I had another thought! An auction to have a character of your choice be immortalized as a kissing booth NPC! Naturally, most people would choose their own character, but whatever.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 22 2012 @ 02:12 AM
By: Trowa

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Quote by: Full+Metal+Lion

I had another thought! An auction to have a character of your choice be immortalized as a kissing booth NPC! Naturally, most people would choose their own character, but whatever.



My vote/bid would go to any of the moderators. Twisted Evil


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 22 2012 @ 04:12 AM
By: Matthew

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I'd really like a one-time (or just really expensive) name change tag thing. I (and a lot of other people I'm guessing) would probably spring for that.

I also like the idea of an HP-reducer, though it doesn't seem quite right that that would be a donator item. A lot of people would love a DK point refunder gadget, too, I'm sure.

edit: Oh yeah, a dwelling mover thing! Maybe limit it to once per dwelling, though. A mobile bingo hall might be the last thing we need.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 22 2012 @ 05:16 AM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

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Building on what was mentioned before: a vote on the next feature (from choices)? Each dollar donated is a vote?

Quote by: Trowa

Quote by: Full+Metal+Lion

I had another thought! An auction to have a character of your choice be immortalized as a kissing booth NPC! Naturally, most people would choose their own character, but whatever.



My vote/bid would go to any of the moderators. Twisted Evil


A roughly canonical list of who I would pick, in order:
Full Metal Lion (For females)
The Watcher (For both)
Old Saint Nades (Females)
CaveManJoe (Depends on whether I'm feeling cruel)
Mr. Stern (Both)
Rohit's Humpmobile (Both, assuming it doesn't get to be a mount)
Corporal Punishment (Both or just females, depending on my mood) ("Pucker up, MAGGOT!")
That Comms Tent Guy (Both)
SpiderKitty (Both)
Max, that hunk/hunkette (Both)

On a side-note, do you play TF2, CaveManJoe?


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 22 2012 @ 12:49 PM
By: Harris

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Maniak: You're a beautiful human being, but, NOOOO. NO. noooooooo. We've had too many stints of unreadable Bright Primary Colors and Eye Melting Neon pages.

Seriously. I can remember `imonths`i where i had to skip most in-character text because it hurt.

FML (which still makes me giggle, 'cos it reminds me of Fuck My Life): I'm wit'chu, brother. Donations for Kissing booth changeups!


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 23 2012 @ 01:34 PM
By: AliceHeart

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A few ideas to get CMJ some cash:

Another sale in the Hunter's Lodge- When Boxes and Health Certificates were at half price, I know a bunch of people (myself included) who donated somewhat generous lumps of money all at once.

C&Cs that affect the outside of a Place. These might work differently than regular C&Cs, so they could be purchasable in the Hunter's Lodge.

An item, C&C, or something purchasable in the Hunter's Lodge that would allow chat in Places to not expire over time, instead being limited by page numbers, or having an extended amount of life time.

An item, C&C, or something purchasable in the Hunter's Lodge that would allow you to export chat again.

Either an item to help bring down threat level in Outposts, break breaches (already suggested), and/or an item purchasable somewhere that allows you to send out a "call to arms", displaying messages in Outposts for a certain amount of time that X character is kicking arse and taking names in X outpost and could really use the help of other contestants.

This next idea I must say I have not tinkered with Thoughts yet very much, so if what I'm about to suggest is already doable with Thoughts, please forgive my ignorance:

A Place Memory, in the sense that it doesn't store values for Players, rather for the Place itself, and remains constant until changed by some method (most likely C&Cs or through the Master Settings)

Teleportation between Places (Might need to be careful with this one, since it could potentially be exploitable). A different type of Teleporter Beacon that would allow for travel between Places that contain this type of Teleporter Beacon. The Beacon itself could be purchasable with SP, and then need to be charged with cigs, or costs an OST to use. This would be very handy to transfer materials from one Place to another without triggering a NewDay if you have a Barn Raiser or Builder's Brew active. Alternatively, simply make this a feature that costs some SP to use in the current Teleporter Beacons. (The suggestion itself is for a way to travel between Places without having to exit a Place and trigger a NewDay)


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 23 2012 @ 03:03 PM
By: Carter

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First off, for a quick bit of cash that might be very easy to do, why don't you bring back the Emily Bundle? That was an excellent value for the money and a lot of people missed out on it due to lack of funds (including me).

Another thing to bring back would be the Requisition Multipliers....by goodness I LOVE those things!

The outpost-clearing items would be a TON of help for those outposts that constantly get breached, so I really like that idea.

How about a nifty item that helps out a veteran player like the Cookies do a Rookie? For example, a brownie....or Veteran Pie? Such an item would grant +50% hit points for Game Day, maybe a +50% Stamina Boost, and a straight up +50% Attack and Defense Bonus? Charge maybe....250 Donator Points for that one.

If Islanders want to have something more permanent and physical to show their fondness of the island, what about Improbable Island Shotglasses or Pint Mugs? If a design could be reached for say, The Prancing Spiderkitty or BOOZ, I believe something like that would take off pretty easily. Hell, I don't even drink much at all, but I'd display a set of shotglasses.

If trains DO come back, you might be able to sell train passes in addition to the players collecting cards...say, 100 Donator Points for a book of 10 Passes, 250 Donator Points for 1st Class, and 500 Donator Points for The Sleeper/Dining Car...where players can actually rest on the train as if they slept in a Single Bed and got a meal randomly determined from the various diners on the Island.

I LOVE Maniak's suggestion of having more Colors Available, though paying for individual colors might be a bit much....why not offer a secondary color palette for say....1,000 Donator Points....and include 8 to 16 colors in each? As time goes on, come out with more palettes.

What about Picture Frames in Places...that work similar to Clatter in The Prancing Spiderkitty? So if you type in "Look at Spiderkitty Painting", you actually get to see it? With all the programing touches you've made in the last few months, purchasing several picture frames and a lot of creative programming, one could make games similar to that, which would add even more entertainment value to the places!

Another place feature that might be worth spending Donator Points on: Restaurants and bars that actually SELL FOOD AND DRINK! As in real stamina boosts! The money would probably not go to the people running such places (operating costs, labor even at minimum wage, ect), but imagine the sheer variety that the lot of us could come up with. A single Restaurant License might run a player say...500 Donator Points and allow them to throw in a menu of maybe 6 Food Slots to create...throw in some parameters for the stamina gained, and this might work. I know in Carter's Cottage alone there are at least a dozen places to eat and drink. But how cool would that be...seeing all sorts of cuisine and booze combinations, from Pope Tarts to Camel Piss (I.E. Mountain Dew in the LARP I used to play in...)

One last thing in my little brain dump here....Gift Boxes...I LOVE them, but what if you're an Insane Gifter like me who dumps out maybe 50 to 100 gifts a week....maybe more than a few to the same person....it's not much, but it could add up. Giant Gift Boxes for 10 Donator Points each....with 5 Item Slots. Want to send a friend a bunch of Monster Repellents for that Bastard Rank? These would be perfect, and it would cut down on the time the present giver would need in the Gifting Station.

I hope some of these ideas help out...let me know if you need any more! Smile

--Scott Matthew
AKA Chef Albert Carter


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 23 2012 @ 03:16 PM
By: Piobaire

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I'd love to donate, but (are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin.):

I usually use my laptop for II.
This morning, the house-rabbit struck a blow against the bourgeoisie by neatly nipping my power cord in twain.
I'm now on my iPad, hence I'm using the (a) mobile version.
This version doesn't come equipped with the terribly attractive keyhole graphic.
Since my memory is filthier than a three year old can get whilst dressed in their best clothes, wrestling with a pig and eating a chocolate ice-cream, I can't remember if I'm supposed to hit the Author box or the other one.
No, the rabbit yet lives, but he's been talked to very sternly and I've taken away his copy of Marx.

TL;DR? Short version: which box and you may want to throw a reminder for idiots like me on the MoTD.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 23 2012 @ 04:26 PM
By: Omega

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So Carter Said: First off, for a quick bit of cash that might be very easy to do, why don't you bring back the Emily Bundle? That was an excellent value for the money and a lot of people missed out on it due to lack of funds (including me).


Yes! I'd love for it to be back, but I doubt that's possible, since the fact that it was a one-time only, not to be repeated bundle was emphasized.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 23 2012 @ 04:31 PM
By: Trowa

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Quote by: Piobaire

TL;DR? Short version: which box and you may want to throw a reminder for idiots like me on the MoTD.



You want to use the Site Admin button. Wink

I guess it's not in the Mobile version, but this notice is on the standard versions: "To support Improbable Island and receive Supporter Points, please use the purple "Site Admin" PayPal button, after first ensuring that you're logged in."


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 23 2012 @ 04:54 PM
By: Piobaire

Content:

Thanks, Trowa! On the non-mobile version, an explanation comes up when you hit the coinslot (not "keyhole"...need more coffee), but not on this particular mobile version. Off to donate!


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 23 2012 @ 10:39 PM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

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I support most of the proposed ideas, especially my own.

Quote by: Harris


FML (which still makes me giggle, 'cos it reminds me of Fuck My Life


Shh! It's a secret! Smile


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 23 2012 @ 10:45 PM
By: blackjacques

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I've said it before and I'll say it again.

CUSTOM TATTOOS, dammit.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 24 2012 @ 04:23 AM
By: Harris

Content:

Quote by: blackjacques

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

CUSTOM TATTOOS, dammit.



AYE to this, too!


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 24 2012 @ 06:21 AM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

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What would custom tattoos, well, do, exactly?


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 24 2012 @ 09:04 AM
By: Lunatick

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We idea, how about an anti-thieving midgets (anti-taxman?) certificate that makes it so when you get fail boated you don't lose your reqs. I'm sure many people, especially those that dive into breached outposts, would spring for one of these.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 24 2012 @ 10:44 AM
By: Kes

Content:

Quote by: Harris

Quote by: blackjacques

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

CUSTOM TATTOOS, dammit.



AYE to this, too!


YES PLEASE.

And in a similar vein, tattoo removal? I'd be quite willing to cough up for that.

Backing up the idea of bringing back the Emily Bundle (possibly renamed) and the Requisition Multipliers, too - those were nifty things that several people missed when they went.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 24 2012 @ 05:28 PM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

Content:

Quote by: Lunatick

We idea, how about an anti-thieving midgets (anti-taxman?) certificate that makes it so when you get fail boated you don't lose your reqs. I'm sure many people, especially those that dive into breached outposts, would spring for one of these.


I'd rather have that, but for experience points. I don't yet have enough things to throw Req at. And I still don't know what the point of custom tattoos would be.
SSBM: On the off-chance that Rose/Twosocks Monkey/Rosemoo/whoever is reading this: Oh. Yes. I did summon the dead. The spam-post thing must've been it. Possibly lord fowl's. Of course, no-one reads these, so, whatever.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 24 2012 @ 05:52 PM
By: Count+Sessine

Content:

Quote by: Full+Metal+Lion

And I still don't know what the point of custom tattoos would be.

Coolness factor. Having them show up in your bio as individual distinguishing marks for your character.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 25 2012 @ 01:29 AM
By: Den

Content:

The website is down? No warning given?


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 25 2012 @ 01:30 AM
By: Trowa

Content:

Quote by: Den

The website is down? No warning given?



It's just UK Daylight Savings. It'll be back up once the servers sort themselves out.

EDIT: And then it was back as soon as I posted! Laughing Out Loud


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 25 2012 @ 01:49 AM
By: Den

Content:

That's a relief. Thought it had gone belly up. Passed on. Kicked the bucket. Shuffled off this mortal coil. Run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 25 2012 @ 01:51 AM
By: Collin-Vee

Content:

Quote by: AliceHeart


Teleportation between Places (Might need to be careful with this one, since it could potentially be exploitable). A different type of Teleporter Beacon that would allow for travel between Places that contain this type of Teleporter Beacon. The Beacon itself could be purchasable with SP, and then need to be charged with cigs, or costs an OST to use. This would be very handy to transfer materials from one Place to another without triggering a NewDay if you have a Barn Raiser or Builder's Brew active. Alternatively, simply make this a feature that costs some SP to use in the current Teleporter Beacons. (The suggestion itself is for a way to travel between Places without having to exit a Place and trigger a NewDay)



Perhaps this, but only with materials? Like shove a dozen stones in, shove your hard-earned tobacco in, and hope that it doesn't explode? It would eliminate the exploit of quick-travel around the island, while still moving the materials you'd need without it being twelve thousand trips. Also, possibly set a limit on how much material it can send in a single day?

EDIT: Also, make it limited-time, so that they won't all be bought by people after they get their free points from BOINC, having a huge network set up to make walking trivial.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 25 2012 @ 03:30 AM
By: dizzyizzy

Content:

I'm pretty sure someone's said it already, but I want a giant tacky fundraising thermometer. giant. Tall and skinny. I want donating a fiver to make an observable difference. That'll get me to scrape my wallet out.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 25 2012 @ 05:04 AM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

Content:

Quote by: Collin-Vee

Quote by: AliceHeart


Teleportation between Places (Might need to be careful with this one, since it could potentially be exploitable). A different type of Teleporter Beacon that would allow for travel between Places that contain this type of Teleporter Beacon. The Beacon itself could be purchasable with SP, and then need to be charged with cigs, or costs an OST to use. This would be very handy to transfer materials from one Place to another without triggering a NewDay if you have a Barn Raiser or Builder's Brew active. Alternatively, simply make this a feature that costs some SP to use in the current Teleporter Beacons. (The suggestion itself is for a way to travel between Places without having to exit a Place and trigger a NewDay)



Perhaps this, but only with materials? Like shove a dozen stones in, shove your hard-earned tobacco in, and hope that it doesn't explode? It would eliminate the exploit of quick-travel around the island, while still moving the materials you'd need without it being twelve thousand trips. Also, possibly set a limit on how much material it can send in a single day?

EDIT: Also, make it limited-time, so that they won't all be bought by people after they get their free points from BOINC, having a huge network set up to make walking trivial.



Auction off a limited number! That'll show 'em!


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 25 2012 @ 05:15 AM
By: Collin-Vee

Content:

Better yet, make them actually have a chance to explode!


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 25 2012 @ 06:20 AM
By: Seethe

Content:

Quote by: Count+Sessine

Quote by: LadyRavenSkye

...which is better: Throwing a large lump some, or small ginger amounts.

Ooh, ooh, I can answer this one! Small donations are also very welcome, whenever the impulse moves you -- but "all at once" leaves more money for Dan because PayPal takes a fee from each transaction.

Edit: Oh, this thread was supposed to be about item ideas, wasn't it? Okay, how about this? Items that would let you invoke an NPC to subtract from the built-up monster count in a designated outpost -- and make the flavour text actually worth something:

Subtract 100 - Elias hands you an innocent-looking seashell, 100 sp
Subtract 500 - (mn... accepting flavour suggestions, here.) 500 sp
Subtract 1000 - 750 sp
Clear the Outpost - The Watcher calls in an Air Strike! (costs 2000 sp)



I agree with this, as well as the idea of having teleporters between places.

The half off of boxes and healing certificates would be nice again. I remember when I first joined, in the middle of that last time...

And I betcha plushies would go right out the window ^_^

Maybe if we could get an item that...stops one-hit-KO Jungle hunting? To where it stops you from going to the fail boat (yet still have only 1 HP)?


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 25 2012 @ 04:33 PM
By: Count+Sessine

Content:

Here's an idea that cropped up in another current thread: an enhanced version of the Take Memento contraption -- one that could stash the memento in the inventory of a different Place.

Why it's good: it would allow for Multi-Place Errands (Wongo's clever suggestion) to be set up to be (almost) self-maintaining.

Would buy.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 25 2012 @ 05:15 PM
By: LydiaDefountain

Content:

Quote by: Count SessineHere's an idea that cropped up in another current thread: an enhanced version of the Take Memento contraption -- one that could stash the memento in the inventory of a different Place.

Why it's good: it would allow for Multi-Place Errands (Wongo's clever suggestion) to be set up to be (almost) self-maintaining.

Would buy.


I believe that's already possible by what CMJ posted in the Scavenger Hunt thread.

Quote by: CavemanJoe

Quote by: Trowa

Couple things that come to mind...

Memento contrivances only work with mementos you created. I think you can get around this if you make a mould and give the mould to someone else. Then they should be able to use a Memento contrivance for that memento in their place. Basically, you have to pass the mould around to everyone who's going to use that as part of their programming. I haven't tried this, though, and I don't know if anyone else has...



You can also set the Give Memento Contraption's parameters and then give the Contraption away, like this:

1. Get mould.
2. Make Mementos.
3. Get Give Memento Contraption (GMC).
4. Put GMC in one of your own Program Grids.
5. Set GMC to give your Memento.
6. Pick up GMC.
7. Give GMC to player whose house it will go in.
8. Put lots of Mementos in the Place Inventory of said house.



Basicly get the memento (give, get) and set them yourself to your item then give the person you want to distribute your item the set contrivances. The parameters stay set until changed apparently.. haven't tested this myself though.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 25 2012 @ 06:22 PM
By: Hairy+Mary

Content:

No, I think that what Sessine would like is to have a Contraption that when put in Place A will take mementos and put them in Place A's inventory. I think that Things (as mentioned in another thread which I'm too lazy to find right now) might do the job instead though.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 25 2012 @ 07:30 PM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

Content:

Quote by: Hairy+Mary

No, I think that what Sessine would like is to have a Contraption that when put in Place A will take mementos and put them in Place A''s inventory. I think that Things (as mentioned in another thread which I'm too lazy to find right now) might do the job instead though.


Surely, you mean he wants Mementos & Things taken in Place A to go to Place B.

Every time someone uses the word "Things", I quietly whisper "Yes!", while mentally doing a victory dance.
SSBM: Only if capitalized correctly, though.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 25 2012 @ 08:22 PM
By: Hairy+Mary

Content:

Quote by: Full+Metal+Lion

Quote by: Hairy+Mary

No, I think that what Sessine would like is to have a Contraption that when put in Place A will take mementos and put them in Place A''s inventory. I think that Things (as mentioned in another thread which I'm too lazy to find right now) might do the job instead though.


Surely, you mean he wants Mementos & Things taken in Place A to go to Place B.



Er, yes. That is in fact exactly what I was trying to say. These big letters confuse me. Oops!


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 25 2012 @ 08:23 PM
By: Chimental

Content:

I threw in a few bucks, and oh man, if they make custom tattoos, I'd make one for every single one of my characters. And anyone who knows me knows I'd do it.

I'd be the one asking for money.

Please, sirs, I need just one in the shape of an amoeba. And then I'll only need 35 more.

And I'm with Rose, if we can somehow get that Spiderkitty in mass production, even if we shrink down the design to Beanie Baby status, I would buy the crap out of that.

Another Idea is some new posters.
-The 'staff' of the Island- The Watcher, Corporal Punishment, Mr Stern, other NPCs that I know are in CMJ's head, even CMJ himself.
-The 15 (I think it's 15) forms of the Lion.
-A bulletin, much like the ZAP grenade poster, that announces Dr. Improbable's latest invention.
-'Postcards' of all the Outposts. 'New Pittsburgh-Wish you were dead.' 'Squathole-Get out.'


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 26 2012 @ 03:08 AM
By: Black+jacques

Content:

Did someone explain to the Person Of Limited Imagination why custom tattoos are a good idea? Because I really don't know how to put it any other way. They're custom tattoos. They are tattoos, that are customized. Um.... That's it.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 26 2012 @ 03:13 AM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

Content:

Quote by: Black+jacques

Did someone explain to the Person Of Limited Imagination why custom tattoos are a good idea? Because I really don't know how to put it any other way. They're custom tattoos. They are tattoos, that are customized. Um.... That's it.


PLI, here. Please note the difference in the following two lines of typing:

Tattoos: Phoenix, Bear, Heart, "I Love FML"

Tattoos: Phoenix, Bear, Heart, "I Love FML"

Answer: One was in the Tattoo section of the bio, the other was in the description part. The only other difference was cost.

*shrug*
So, yeah. I guess other people might want them, along with custom race and stuff, but I don't see it.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 26 2012 @ 05:04 AM
By: Buddleia

Content:

FML, lots of people are already paying to get a custom race, a custom title, a custom name colour, an extended biography, an avatar, a mount customiser, a custom weapon description, a custom armour description ... and all of that could go in the biography too. (Via links if necessary. Some people already add links to their bios.) And yet, people are still willing to pay for more than what they could squeeze in to the defaults. This is a suggestion for one more way of customising a character; several people have already said they would pay for it. Maybe I wouldn't, and maybe you wouldn't, but is it really necessary for you to keep questioning it? This is an ideas thread.


Back on topic, more suggestions:


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 26 2012 @ 11:06 AM
By: Twosocks+Monkey

Content:

Budd I totally agree with your ideas about (well LOTS of things but specifically this):

Quote by: Buddleia

(Come to think of it, maybe there should be a whole submenu for Buy Place Improvements, rather than tacking them on to the current menus/pages.)


It would kill me to constantly be spending cash on little things like that...but the impulse buy is just...you can't ignore that. I KNOW I would shell out sometimes for just that last thing, rather than do all the traipsing...I just...I get lazy like that. Lots of people do.

LET'S EXPLOIT OUR KNOWN WEAKNESSES TO KEEP THE ISLAND GOING!

-Rose


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 26 2012 @ 03:47 PM
By: Count+Sessine

Content:

Impulse buys are good. There'd be a lot fewer Instant New Days sold if people had to buy them beforehand in the Lodge.

(Not to mention Chronospheres... I'm sure I'm not the only one who has racked up an embarrassingly large number of those gorgeous purple-swirly glass spheres. Gets me every time: "Damn, out of days! Do I have to stop playing? No! For just $2.50 plus a mere handful of (mumble) dimes, I can be the Energizer Bunny and start all over again!")

So yeah. Add my voice to those saying "Aye!" to this. In-Place purchase of Place-related gadgets would totally work.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 26 2012 @ 08:03 PM
By: Raine+Bofirn

Content:

...I heard that Pinrut wants 18 squares of II. 72 dwellings. With 200-300 rooms each. That'd be 7200 cigarettes, at least. And over 216000 rooms.

If only that effort was supported by donations! XD.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 26 2012 @ 08:45 PM
By: Maniak

Content:

Quote by: Raine+Bofirn

...[insert swaggering and boasting gossip here]
If only that effort was supported by donations! XD.



Please note that the full proceeds of any donation given to Pinrut will be going towards hiring Stephen King to create enough page-filler to decorate those 216000 rooms.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 27 2012 @ 01:23 AM
By: dizzyizzy

Content:

Quote by: Maniak

Quote by: Raine+Bofirn

...[insert swaggering and boasting gossip here]
If only that effort was supported by donations! XD.



Please note that the full proceeds of any donation given to Pinrut will be going towards hiring Stephen King to create enough page-filler to decorate those 216000 rooms.



Stephen King? Psh. Amateur. The only thing he should be hired for is to take part in the seance to contact Charles Dickens. That man could fill a page.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 27 2012 @ 02:29 AM
By: Collin-Vee

Content:

Quote by: dizzyizzy

I'm pretty sure someone's said it already, but I want a giant tacky fundraising thermometer. giant. Tall and skinny. I want donating a fiver to make an observable difference. That'll get me to scrape my wallet out.



This. So much.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 27 2012 @ 07:25 PM
By: Raine+Bofirn

Content:

Quote by: dizzyizzy

Quote by: Maniak

Quote by: Raine+Bofirn

...[insert swaggering and boasting gossip here]
If only that effort was supported by donations! XD.



Please note that the full proceeds of any donation given to Pinrut will be going towards hiring Stephen King to create enough page-filler to decorate those 216000 rooms.



Stephen King? Psh. Amateur. The only thing he should be hired for is to take part in the seance to contact Charles Dickens. That man could fill a page.



Hmm. All of a sudden, I'm seeing a dwelling called Great Expectations.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 27 2012 @ 10:27 PM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

Content:

Quote by: Raine+Bofirn


Hmm. All of a sudden, I'm seeing a dwelling called Great Expectations.


I have high hopes for it.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 28 2012 @ 12:20 PM
By: Hawkeye_Hanlon

Content:

I honestly think cobblestones need to be used for more than just copying mementoes at the moment, and my idea is to use them in conjunction with supporter points as a new material for building and jobs in the same manner as mementoes. Say, 10 cobblestones and 1 supporter point can replace 1 wood or 1 stone if any player is having trouble (or just can't be arsed) getting those materials because for instance they have to lug them through a breached outpost when they teleport in.

Linking them to building in this way will make the cobblestones much more useful, and motivate perhaps even more players to donate their time to the World Community Grid as well as cough up a little more cash in exchange for DP used for building.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 29 2012 @ 12:00 AM
By: Wanderen

Content:

Many awesome ideas already...

Some use for the cobblestones would be much appreciated - whether as weapons, armor, building material, jewelry, edibles or having a literal rock concert. Temporarily allowing 1,000 cobblestones to = 1 cigarette or some such comparable exchange rate would also be awesome, even if there was an additional real world fee attached to activate this option.

In the meantime... Since Spiderkitty plush does not seem very likely at the moment... With your permission, would it be okay to attempt to design a Spiderkitty tee shirt? We could submit the design to threadless.com. They pay for designs if the designs get made. Deciding what gets made takes voting and anyone can join to vote. So if the design was good enough and had support here, it would help. If the design gets made, that would be a donation of two grand for this site. Plus two hundred if you didn't want a gift card for threadless.com. And a new shirt would be available for fans to advertise the site with. Does this sound reasonable?


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 30 2012 @ 01:11 PM
By: Ilovemath224

Content:

With the place building bundle, I see it as an extremely great value.

However, with the weightless wood and stone amounts being the same (1000 each), I have one slight problem:
Places typically use up more wood than stone.

Don't get me wrong, I'd still buy the bundle if there weren't more wood than stone, but it just seems somewhat counter-intuitive to have the same amount of wood and stone given out when stone is used less than wood.

Then again, the fact that most dwellings are close to a forest might balance that out, but with costs of wood being at least twice as much as the costs of stone (in jobs that require stone) this doesn't quite seem right.

Perhaps raising the amount of wood supplied would be a good idea.

Still... that is a lot of wood and stone.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 30 2012 @ 04:52 PM
By: Count+Sessine

Content:

Quote by: Ilovemath224

With the place building bundle, I see it as an extremely great value.

However, with the weightless wood and stone amounts being the same (1000 each), I have one slight problem:
Places typically use up more wood than stone.

Don't get me wrong, I'd still buy the bundle if there weren't more wood than stone, but it just seems somewhat counter-intuitive to have the same amount of wood and stone given out when stone is used less than wood.

Then again, the fact that most dwellings are close to a forest might balance that out, but with costs of wood being at least twice as much as the costs of stone (in jobs that require stone) this doesn't quite seem right.

Perhaps raising the amount of wood supplied would be a good idea.

Still... that is a lot of wood and stone.

Most people are simply going to have a lot of wood and a lot more stone left over.

For the truly ambitious who want a huge place in a remote non-forest location... well, once you run out of the starter wood in the bundle (which will take a good while), there are all those brews to help with logging. A good three-steak day and a brew can... well it depends on your skill level, but you can easily wind up with a couple thousand logs that way, and you have twenty brews.

As for getting your insane quantities of materials to the remote locations ... this is harder without first class passes (sorry!), but one way is to save up or buy enough cigs to install and fuel a teleporter beacon in your place. I imagine others will chime in to suggest cheaper methods.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 30 2012 @ 06:57 PM
By: LydiaDefountain

Content:

There ar a decent number of beacon's out there.. if you just find one with a nice public one you can build around it rather easily. The titan's watches for instance I've noticed they have beacons to help titan hunters get to titans but as they are rather open they are quite useful to use to fuel and use for building near... if your of a mind.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 30 2012 @ 10:06 PM
By: Wanderen

Content:

Spiderkitty may be good place to start but wanted to add that this wonderful game of yours offers many other potential ideas for tee shirt designs. I, for one, would love a Friend of Hedgehogs or Crazy Audrey themed shirt to advertise this site with. Am sure that other players who have spent more time here would have all kinds of design suggestions. Maybe a shirt with the rock-paper-scissor mutant? Maybe some angry midgets? Maybe one of The Watcher or the Failboat? Only to be done with your permission, though.

It would be a donation of two grand for the site each time a design got made. Plus an additional donation each time the design got reprinted. And that may not be much, in the grand scheme of things but perhaps it could help - yes? Granted, threadless.com would take a share of the profit from any shirt design they made but they'd also handle production, advertising and distribution - so maybe this balances out? *shrugs*

And how about 5,000 cobbblestones = 1 cigarette, if a small fee is paid to activate this option?


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 31 2012 @ 12:43 PM
By: Ilovemath224

Content:

I can predict this right now:
If I get the bundle, I'm going to run out of wood really quickly.

No, seriously, the version of the place I have in the Places Testing server has already used more than 1000 wood. Heck, I think using over 5000 isn't an unreasonable estimate. And I will probably never finish the top floors on that server. The real thing won't be quite as big as Stonehenge, but it will be quite the feat.

Still, you've got a good point, Sessine.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 31 2012 @ 02:29 PM
By: Collin-Vee

Content:

Quote by: Ilovemath224

I can predict this right now:
If I get the bundle, I'm going to run out of wood really quickly.

No, seriously, the version of the place I have in the Places Testing server has already used more than 1000 wood. Heck, I think using over 5000 isn't an unreasonable estimate. And I will probably never finish the top floors on that server. The real thing won't be quite as big as Stonehenge, but it will be quite the feat.

Still, you've got a good point, Sessine.



Still, you have to admit. 1000 pieces of weightless wood is still a good deal with everything else.

Hell, I'm piss broke and I'm still trying to scrape up money to pay off my credit card to buy this thing.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 31 2012 @ 07:45 PM
By: Matthew

Content:

Quote by: Wanderen

And how about 5,000 cobbblestones = 1 cigarette, if a small fee is paid to activate this option?


The thing that's hard about balancing cobblestones is that you'll have more or less depending on how fast your computer is, which gives people with blazing-fast machines a pretty big advantage over others with slower ones.

It's why the amount of supporter points given out is the same for everyone, and not based on the amount of cobblestones accumulated in that period.

Cobblestones, if used for anything, would need to be for a community advantage.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 31 2012 @ 07:55 PM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

Content:

Quote by: Matthew

Quote by: Wanderen

And how about 5,000 cobbblestones = 1 cigarette, if a small fee is paid to activate this option?


The thing that's hard about balancing cobblestones is that you'll have more or less depending on how fast your computer is, which gives people with blazing-fast machines a pretty big advantage over others with slower ones.

It's why the amount of supporter points given out is the same for everyone, and not based on the amount of cobblestones accumulated in that period.

Cobblestones, if used for anything, would need to be for a community advantage.



Or something purely cosmetic, like the Mementos.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 31 2012 @ 09:05 PM
By: Black+jacques

Content:

Here's another idea, and this one actually has a use. How about selling in the Hunter's Lodge:

A BIGGER COOKING PAN.

How about a pan that holds 50, or 100 bites of meat? Then those of us who can fight well over 200+ rounds per day, and don't mind defending ever-besieged outposts without food, could actually feed ourselves. 20 bites of French hen even 50 fights or so does not keep a warrior going.

And, game-world-wise --- it's really something that would happen. People would contrive themselves bigger cooking pans so as to be self-reliant.

(To FML: once your objection was voiced, I understood your query better. To which I reply: tattoos you proclaim yourself to have, aren't real.)

Big Grin


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: March 31 2012 @ 09:30 PM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

Content:

Quote by: Black+jacques

Here's another idea, and this one actually has a use. How about selling in the Hunter's Lodge:

A BIGGER COOKING PAN.

How about a pan that holds 50, or 100 bites of meat? Then those of us who can fight well over 200+ rounds per day, and don't mind defending ever-besieged outposts without food, could actually feed ourselves. 20 bites of French hen even 50 fights or so does not keep a warrior going.

And, game-world-wise --- it's really something that would happen. People would contrive themselves bigger cooking pans so as to be self-reliant.

(To FML: once your objection was voiced, I understood your query better. To which I reply: tattoos you proclaim yourself to have, aren't real.)

Big Grin



That sounds more like a special weapon. "Comically Large Frying Pan", you could call it. Attack bonus, defense bonus, and the ability to cook lotsa meat at once. Though I'm sure some savvy Island is going to tell you all about how it's better to just visit PV and grab some noodles.

(About the tattoos: I see what you did there. Big Grin)


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: April 01 2012 @ 09:07 AM
By: Awesome+Fred

Content:

The game Dwarf Fortress is being programmed by 1 man with his brother for idea and business support. The developer subsists entirely on donations from the players who download and enjoy his pre-Alpha versions of the game, and if I remember correctly, brings in about $30-35k per year.

Recently, due to a very long period without a new version update (in order to completely restructure the internal code), he held an "Animal Donation Drive" for a month, where people voted with their donation dollars on which animals they wanted to see get implemented into the game as a wildlife creature. (This went beyond just making a whole bunch of creatures--each creature brings in another industry for the Dwarves to work with, like beekeeping, ivory-crafting, ink-sac-harvesting, etc.)



CMJ needs money to live and enjoy doing what he's doing, and I understand that. I'm always loathe to encourage any sort of donated in-game benefit that reduces challenge/complexity, because it breaks the integrity of a level playing field in a game by awarding advantages to the deepest pockets. I think a "Feature-Drive" might be a solution that helps incentivize players into giving their money--players love adding their own ideas to the game, after all. This, of course, is by no means an easy solution on CMJ's side because it shifts away attention from the current list of bugs to fix and features to add, but the 70+ animals are being added a few at a time in each standard bug-fix release. It's possible to balance "a little bit for the donation drive and a little bit that I intended to work on anyway".

Of course, animals were more limited in scope for that game than simply broad "features" on Improbable Island. If we can narrow it down to something that's acceptably reasonable yet still people are eager to donate for, that would be cool.





I reread this and I'm not sure I'm being clear, so let me use a hypothetical example:

CMJ says, "Hey guys, I'm gonna replace the Joker in-combat suit-based card drawing with more specific cards. I'm gonna need 50-60 card suggestions of a minor bonus or penalty (cig, 20 req, lose 5 health, deal half damage on this turn) accompanied by a single line of up to 70 characters of flavor text (roll the card into the cig, pull the coins from the monsters' ears, papercut, distracted by playing card turning into a dove)." The forum thread racks up about 150-180 suggestions. After a week, CMJ locks the thread and prunes any of the least-likely or unpalatable suggestions with excessive buffing, and then announces on the MOTD for people to donate with a message that tells CMJ which suggestions they want to see implemented as an effect, 1 dollar per vote. The top 50 or 60 suggestions that were donated for get implemented. Joker combat is forever a little more interesting, and many players delight to see their own permanent effect on the game. CMJ gets money. And no one walks away defeated, dejected, and deflated.



By the way, this forum moves WAY slower when I'm not around to stir up unnecessary debate.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: April 01 2012 @ 11:08 AM
By: Twosocks+Monkey

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Quote by: Awesome+Fred


By the way, this forum moves WAY slower when I'm not around to stir up unnecessary debate.



Plus we miss you when you're gone.

Big Grin

-Rose


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: April 01 2012 @ 03:05 PM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

Content:

It's so lonely on the internet, when you guys go away. Cry
So stir away, Mr. Fred. Then I can experience some more fleeting human contact on the fantastic forums of this fantastic game.
Super Sneaky Bastard Message: And the gallery is here, too!


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: April 01 2012 @ 05:29 PM
By: Mongo

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Quote by: LydiaDefountain

There ar a decent number of beacon's out there.. if you just find one with a nice public one you can build around it rather easily. The titan's watches for instance I've noticed they have beacons to help titan hunters get to titans but as they are rather open they are quite useful to use to fuel and use for building near... if your of a mind.




You've hit it pretty much dead center. This was the plan when the beacon at Crescent Beach was built. It's in a perfect place to grow into a thriving community. We're going to need these kinds of places when it's time to expand the map and add more outposts.

This Bundle will give me the incentive to get back in it and update, upgrade and busily build bigger and better buildings. If enough of us feel this way, CMJ will never find out that we would have given him the $25 just for the Medal.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: April 02 2012 @ 11:07 PM
By: Wanderen

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Quote by: Matthew

Quote by: Wanderen

And how about 5,000 cobbblestones = 1 cigarette, if a small fee is paid to activate this option?


The thing that's hard about balancing cobblestones is that you'll have more or less depending on how fast your computer is, which gives people with blazing-fast machines a pretty big advantage over others with slower ones.

It's why the amount of supporter points given out is the same for everyone, and not based on the amount of cobblestones accumulated in that period.

Cobblestones, if used for anything, would need to be for a community advantage.



*nods* Well explained, thanks. I understand that people with great tech are naturally gonna have more rocks - so maybe having more than one use for these things would be good? How about... If you want to convert your cobblestones into cigarettes, you have to pay a small real world fee and accept whatever exchange rate the game will give you. BUT if you want to DONATE your cobblestones to some worthy cause - I.E creating a temporary path on the map, giving the stones to others to be used in constructions or wall reinforcements - THAT would of course be free. So then people with absolute stacks of cobblestones could share them around for better or worse without having to fork over any real cash and people (like me...) who never seem to have quite enough cigarettes for luggage upgrades or lingual defense lessons would be able - at a price - to get some. And there could be NPC uses for the rocks as well - so that if you wished to donate the rocks, then you wouldn't necessarily have to donate to another player or clan. Maybe there could be Crazy Audreys Brand New Orphange for Pebbles or maybe a donation would just cause the Curious Looking Rock in Kittania to actually grow or maybe with enough donations would allow an actual Rock Concert( The Angry Midgets would make a great name for a band, you know....). Maybe we could donate the rocks to the jungle and have them turn around and attack us. Whatever works. It's all about having options.


Oh and back to the merchandising idea.... What about a Sneaky Lion tee shirt as well? That seems to be a reoccuring theme.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: April 03 2012 @ 01:06 AM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

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Quote by: Wanderen


Oh and back to the merchandising idea.... What about a Sneaky Lion tee shirt as well? That seems to be a reoccuring theme.



It wouldn't just be a lion, though. It'd be... a jungle on the front. With a lion on the back, accompanied by it's "You encounter a Lion, which lunges at you with [whatever]!" text. Or something. The front image could be a flower pot.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: April 05 2012 @ 10:27 PM
By: Wanderen

Content:

Quote by: Full+Metal+Lion

Quote by: Wanderen


Oh and back to the merchandising idea.... What about a Sneaky Lion tee shirt as well? That seems to be a reoccuring theme.



It wouldn't just be a lion, though. It'd be... a jungle on the front. With a lion on the back, accompanied by it's "You encounter a Lion, which lunges at you with [whatever]!" text. Or something. The front image could be a flower pot.



Yah! I'd vote for/buy/wear that!

Could also be a Sneaky Lion identification shirt with many pictures of objects that do not in any way whatsoever resemble a lion....

Back to the Rock Concert idea for a moment though... So if we donate cobblestones to an outpost then perhaps a temporary concert stage would be build in the commongrounds? And when enough people have donated enough cobblestones, the performance begins and anyone in the area of that outpost can attend and maybe have a chance to either gain or lose charm/stamina/their hearing. For Squat Hole, we could have a band called The Angry Midgets to perform although whether or not they acheive anything that could actually be classed as music is an open debate. For Improbable Central, the bard Seth would likely take center stage. For New Pittsburgh, the band could be The Mildly Grateful Not-Exactly Dead. For Kittania... So many possibilities... It's fun to speculate, hrm?


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: April 06 2012 @ 02:09 AM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

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Quote by: Wanderen


Could also be a Sneaky Lion identification shirt with many pictures of objects that do not in any way whatsoever resemble a lion....


Eh. I feel like that's been done.

Quote by: Carter


What about Picture Frames in Places...that work similar to Clatter in The Prancing Spiderkitty? So if you type in "Look at Spiderkitty Painting", you actually get to see it? With all the programing touches you've made in the last few months, purchasing several picture frames and a lot of creative programming, one could make games similar to that, which would add even more entertainment value to the places!


Alternatively, someone needs to make a program that turns pictures into ASCII art, but with island color codes.


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: April 12 2012 @ 09:19 PM
By: Lunatick

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Ok, so CMJ, you said that you needed to sell 240 Creator Bundles to pay off the Taxman. I still see 122 in the Lodge. That means that you only sold 178. That's damn near 70 shy. I'm curious if still made enough money to take care of your tax problems. And if not, what's the next step and what can we, as players, do to help?


Re: Declare the pennies on your eyes

Posted on: April 12 2012 @ 11:18 PM
By: Full+Metal+Lion

Content:

Quote by: Lunatick

Ok, so CMJ, you said that you needed to sell 240 Creator Bundles to pay off the Taxman. I still see 122 in the Lodge. That means that you only sold 178. That's damn near 70 shy. I'm curious if still made enough money to take care of your tax problems. And if not, what's the next step and what can we, as players, do to help?


Wait, there are still some left?!
*Runs off to see*
... So there are.


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